Now we are like Gods – Commanders of worlds…
OK, maybe that’s a bit much. But approaching our two year anniversary we finally have a fully controllable flower room. 22 months, many many baht. But now during lights on I can move between 21c and 36c and <45% or up to 80% Rh. We can pick our spots anywhere in between. Click click and its done. Lights out we’re getting down to about 17c – but we’re at about 30-31c during the day so the important thing is we’re getting well over the 8 degree celsius delta between night and day. Its generally held to be that this is a decent cycle change, the delta help increase colours and terps. We’ll see how we go. But VPD is generally steady during lights on at around 1.7 and the Co2 is at the party with a solid ~1300ppm and the EC steady as she blows at about 2.6. The electricity bill we’ll worry about later.
The left hand one runs 24/7 and then the right hand one runs just at lights out, its a manual change but that’s fine, 8am and 8pm someone just bashes the remote.
Flower Room – Kush Mintz, Biscotti Mintz, Tropical Cookies, Blue Gelato, White Runtz & Frozen Black Cherry
So these were flipped I can say with certainty 11 days ago. They started showing baby buds at day 10, its our normal unadulterated flip. We tried 36 hours of darkness between 16/6 and 12/12 twice. Once it seemed to shave a day, the other time it may have taken a day or so longer. Its a small sample size but the only reason to do it I reckon is probably to save some electricity. If I was running a 100 light setup I’d definitely do it. They’re in good health, the biggest plant in there I nearly culled but look at her go! Top middle picture, right hand side. I’m sure they’ll grow on me but these, I’m calling Generation 2 and Gen 2.1 plants aren’t giving me too much excitement right now. They’ll be fine, fine weed grown in this lab like hydro grow setup. Just I’m all about the Third Gen Strains now! Since we got this room so so perfect (and lets face it – the AC units were $200 each second hand and are one breakdown from ruining the crop!) we’re going to run another grow after this one, sabbatical be damned! Just in this room for the next grow, the tents we might take down a couple of them.
Next grow here I’m thinking maybe add another light, perhaps a 480w although the 1000w would be epic, I just want another two plants, we have 18 now and the room is irrigated for 24 plants, but 20 will do (and we have the drainage trays and watering collars on hand) so it will be 20x Weed 3.0 Strains.
Cannabis Strains 3.0
OK, so what do I mean? The 20 plant grow is going to be made up of:
- Animal Mintz BX1 – Seed Junky
- Masterpiece – Seed Junky/InHouse Genetics
- Black Patronus – Exotic Genetix
- Permanent Chimera – Seed Junky/BeLeaf
From what I have seen from the Animal Mintz, lazily grown in the 8×4 and vaping perfect now and the signs I’m seeing from the 5×5, more of down below, these really are next gen strains. I suspect that in the next 1-2 years your more mainstream breeders, the Barney’s Farm, the Anesia and Humboldt are also going to unlock the ability of the plants to get just so frosty and powerful.
What do I mean by my Gen comments?
I’d go Gen 1.0 for Landraces, plus your White Widows and OG Kush’s. Blueberry. The OG’s on the shoulders of which all breeders stand. Your prime colours.
Gen 2.0 is basically everything else most of us have grown, the whacky names and crosses and reverses. The last 10 years of breeding and consumerism.
Gen 3.0 is the future, they frost differently, quicker and more, they seem to carry less chlorophyl so they cure quicker, they retain more flavour, they dry quicker and did I mention they just sparkle a whole lot more? They are also much more expensive now. I saw a single Permanent Chimera clone for sale for R7000 – that’s nearly $400 USD. I bought 6 clones yesterday but paid in Thai baht, $7.50 each, seemed a better offer than the South African one! Seeds you can expect to pay up to $50. But really – I see and smell the difference. They are worthy of calling a new generation, and the standards will trickle down, maybe some new takes on old favourites, packing more flavour and more punch.
Looks pretty though, eh?
Anyway – that’s the plan.
I got to pop out – but I have photos and thoughts on all 4 other tents to follow later this evening.
Nick & Co
I’m on the other fence. I believe there’s just as much potential and potency in older genetics. I’ve seen tested numbers over 25% total on old strains like Northern Lights and I believe it’s not all about how they look in terms of frost.
I get that most people look for recreational smoke and effects while others look for pain relief and functionality. A purple strain will always be less medicinal than a green phenotype since it hasn’t had the same amount of time of synthesizing compounds. They are often shorter in flower time, that may be a positive or a negative depending on the effect you’re after.
Purple traits are a genetic defect after all for good and bad depending on what you look for. But I personally think it’s sad that everything should look purple just for appearance. I try to breed it out of my own plants. The most potent phenotypes I’ve had through the years has all been green at the end of harvest.
A good example of that frost doesn’t always mean potency is a bad cut of White Widow that looks frostier than anything else while hardly gets you high? Then compare than to say Herijuana that doesn’t look like much but is the most potent strain I ever used to this day.
It’s not all about numbers and chlorophyll is a main part of photosynthesis. To much chlorophyll at the end of harvest is most often a result of overfeeding with excess nitrogen and iron.
Looking forward to see what you get out of the new stuff! Environment looks dialed in!
Cheers!
Hey,
I think we’re broadly agreeing, and of course there’s a huge bit about, “well we got better” Because you’d hope so you do something 2 years, taking it at least a bit seriously! Our equipment and the ability to control the grow from charts other people created, EC or PPM or Temp or Rh – we refer to these numbers and the pictures to help us grow our own.
But I really think, if I grow them that sparkly (and this isn’t a thing where I’m chasing “stronger” I’m all about “experience” not the “mash up”
And I do that in my least tended room, the least close to optimal and still glistens like insane levels – then there might be something there. And the thing that particularly tips me, is they are all these same small batch, 4-6 breeders that seem to be able to switch some stuff on for their strains that is generally only glimpsed at by their genetic cousins.
We agree on most things I believe. I just come out as a very non agreeable person since I always try to look for different angles and viewpoint and that makes me sound harsh and straight to the point. I believe most people have a hard time managing their own viewpoint nowadays, people completely loose their marbles when questioned and hide in the corner instead of trying to understand why the question is even asked from the first place?
I try to stick around people who have enough courage to be a good friend through the good, bad, hard and easy situations. For me that means speaking the truth from the heart with the sole intention to help someone out no matter how hard the question or situation is. You do what you know is rationally right, not what feels convenient.
I love all the new school stuff! I just know there’s still high potential in old backcrosses and inbred lines. They are not the same as in the early 90’s. I believe most strains keep improving through the generations with improved equipment and methodologies.
Those are very kind words toward me – and then all the rest are very wise words – agree so much. I’m throwing ideas out but not for the sake of it. I don’t believe that “New” always means “Better” – we stand on the shoulders of giants, every day.